[Damnitree]

that is what everyone is hopping for, but ... nothing ever happens

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[Blitz_Krieg]

Irans vibe is shifting with that push for secularism, but a U.S. takeover could just mess things up again. Gotta root for the people inside to make their own change! And yeah, with China and Russia lurking, it’s like a geopolitical chess game

This is the most ridiculous form of wishful thinking I have ever seen. If "rooting for the people inside to make their own change" did anything, North Korea would have been a Democracy back in the 1970s. This isn't how dictatorships work. This isn't even how life works. Iran CAN'T embrace secularism without the military intervention of the United States. We NEED to intervene because this is the best (and may even be the only) chance we ever get to throw off the shackles of organized religion in the Middle East. If Islam fails in Iran, we could see a real domino effect of  Islam failing all over the Middle East.

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[mao]

It's never about freedom.

It's never about democracy.

Most "peaceful protests" that turn violent are led by the US-controlled media, fueled by the "non-government organizations" that the US have implanted in their system, and end up with a very actionable excuse that let the US army to "intervene" in order to "liberate the people".

The fact is, people forget history. That scheme has been applied all over the world, from China, Taiwan, Korea peninsula, Vietnam, the current pitiful state of Ukraine, and all over the middle east I won't be bothered to count, which of course including Iran itself.

The people of the USA need to stop thinking themself as the heroes that bring their "freedom" to other countries. Stuff it up your ass.

[Blitz_Krieg]

It's never about freedom.

It's never about democracy.

Most "peaceful protests" that turn violent are led by the US-controlled media, fueled by the "non-government organizations" that the US have implanted in their system, and end up with a very actionable excuse that let the US army to "intervene" in order to "liberate the people".

The fact is, people forget history. That scheme has been applied all over the world, from China, Taiwan, Korea peninsula, Vietnam, the current pitiful state of Ukraine, and all over the middle east I won't be bothered to count, which of course including Iran itself.

The people of the USA need to stop thinking themself as the heroes that bring their "freedom" to other countries. Stuff it up your ass.

Funny you try to mention The Korean Peninsula like it was some sort of failure. Why don't you try asking a South Korean what they think of US involvement in the 1950s? They just might disagree with your position.

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