[Ag0stin0]

We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity. Unlike Signal, conversations on Telegram are not automatically end-to-end encrypted. This means Telegram's servers can potentially access standard chats. Telegram also collects metadata, such as phone numbers and login logs. This information could compromise anonymity if it falls into the wrong hands. What do you think?

[slacky]

We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity. Unlike Signal, conversations on Telegram are not automatically end-to-end encrypted. This means Telegram's servers can potentially access standard chats. Telegram also collects metadata, such as phone numbers and login logs. This information could compromise anonymity if it falls into the wrong hands. What do you think?

the only way to stay safe is buying a phone without sim and usign free wifi's zone only for work, after take this phone, and put it off
others, noone is safe in this world

[Ag0stin0]

We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity. Unlike Signal, conversations on Telegram are not automatically end-to-end encrypted. This means Telegram's servers can potentially access standard chats. Telegram also collects metadata, such as phone numbers and login logs. This information could compromise anonymity if it falls into the wrong hands. What do you think?

the only way to stay safe is buying a phone without sim and usign free wifi's zone only for work, after take this phone, and put it off
others, noone is safe in this world

Yes, that's what I do. But in my country, it’s becoming very complicated. It’s almost impossible to buy a SIM card without a local connection. Even WiFi connections require an OTP sent to a mobile number.

[endless]

We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity

They literally never were

[DredgenSun]

We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity

They literally never were

Aren't logs stored in the Arab states or sth?

[Ag0stin0]

We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity

They literally never were

Yes, by the way, it's interesting to read their FAQ. Even the encryption isn't automatic; you have to enable it.

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We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity

They literally never were

Aren't logs stored in the Arab states or sth?

Telegram claims not to store the content of private messages on its servers after they have been delivered. However, it retains connection metadata (such as IP address, connection time, and duration) for a limited time, typically 12 months, for security and abuse prevention purposes.For secret chats (end-to-end encrypted), Telegram guarantees that no content is stored on its servers. However, for regular chats (non-secret), messages are stored on Telegram's servers in an encrypted format. This means there is a certain level of logging, but the exact policies regarding data retention may vary depending on local laws and specific cases.

[DredgenSun]

We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity

They literally never were

Yes, by the way, it's interesting to read their FAQ. Even the encryption isn't automatic; you have to enable it.

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We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity

They literally never were

Aren't logs stored in the Arab states or sth?

Telegram claims not to store the content of private messages on its servers after they have been delivered. However, it retains connection metadata (such as IP address, connection time, and duration) for a limited time, typically 12 months, for security and abuse prevention purposes.For secret chats (end-to-end encrypted), Telegram guarantees that no content is stored on its servers. However, for regular chats (non-secret), messages are stored on Telegram's servers in an encrypted format. This means there is a certain level of logging, but the exact policies regarding data retention may vary depending on local laws and specific cases.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up man

[HassaMassa]

It's at the point now, where I think the only way to be really secure is not to send the message in the first place. Can't really trust anything.

[Bluke23]

I think its time for a new platform to come out thats secure

[slacky]

We can agree that Telegram is no longer a messaging app offering effective anonymity. Unlike Signal, conversations on Telegram are not automatically end-to-end encrypted. This means Telegram's servers can potentially access standard chats. Telegram also collects metadata, such as phone numbers and login logs. This information could compromise anonymity if it falls into the wrong hands. What do you think?

the only way to stay safe is buying a phone without sim and usign free wifi's zone only for work, after take this phone, and put it off
others, noone is safe in this world

Yes, that's what I do. But in my country, it’s becoming very complicated. It’s almost impossible to buy a SIM card without a local connection. Even WiFi connections require an OTP sent to a mobile number.

your country is Italy?