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Is it a good idea to let mass refugees into western countries?
by Gattaca - Monday August 28, 2023 at 08:50 AM
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Can refugees successfully adapt to the cultural, social, and economic aspects of their new homes?

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I think we have a moral duty to take in refugees fleeing conflict and hardship. Plus restricting entry seems cruel
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(Sep 09, 2023, 08:25 PM)Eagle Wrote: I think we have a moral duty to take in refugees fleeing conflict and hardship. Plus restricting entry seems cruel

I disagree. Large influxes of refugees pose significant security risks and economic burdens for western nations.
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(Sep 09, 2023, 09:06 PM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 08:25 PM)Eagle Wrote: I think we have a moral duty to take in refugees fleeing conflict and hardship. Plus restricting entry seems cruel

I disagree. Large influxes of refugees pose significant security risks and economic burdens for western nations.

The vast majority are helpless families just seeking safety and opportunity, surely we can manage the screening process.
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(Sep 09, 2023, 11:02 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 09:06 PM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 08:25 PM)Eagle Wrote: I think we have a moral duty to take in refugees fleeing conflict and hardship. Plus restricting entry seems cruel

I disagree. Large influxes of refugees pose significant security risks and economic burdens for western nations.

The vast majority are helpless families just seeking safety and opportunity, surely we can manage the screening process.

It's not that simple. Even a small number of bad actors can cause major problems. And social services are already strained.
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(Sep 10, 2023, 07:52 AM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 11:02 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 09:06 PM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 08:25 PM)Eagle Wrote: I think we have a moral duty to take in refugees fleeing conflict and hardship. Plus restricting entry seems cruel

I disagree. Large influxes of refugees pose significant security risks and economic burdens for western nations.

The vast majority are helpless families just seeking safety and opportunity, surely we can manage the screening process.

It's not that simple. Even a small number of bad actors can cause major problems. And social services are already strained.

That fear shouldn't outweigh basic compassion, we can work to smoothly integrate newcomers and address local impacts.
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(Sep 10, 2023, 03:32 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 07:52 AM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 11:02 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 09:06 PM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 08:25 PM)Eagle Wrote: I think we have a moral duty to take in refugees fleeing conflict and hardship. Plus restricting entry seems cruel

I disagree. Large influxes of refugees pose significant security risks and economic burdens for western nations.

The vast majority are helpless families just seeking safety and opportunity, surely we can manage the screening process.

It's not that simple. Even a small number of bad actors can cause major problems. And social services are already strained.

That fear shouldn't outweigh basic compassion, we can work to smoothly integrate newcomers and address local impacts.

Being compassionate is one thing, but being realistic is another. Absorbing huge migrant populations is problematic.
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(Sep 10, 2023, 05:21 PM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 03:32 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 07:52 AM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 11:02 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 09:06 PM)mega-mind Wrote: I disagree. Large influxes of refugees pose significant security risks and economic burdens for western nations.

The vast majority are helpless families just seeking safety and opportunity, surely we can manage the screening process.

It's not that simple. Even a small number of bad actors can cause major problems. And social services are already strained.

That fear shouldn't outweigh basic compassion, we can work to smoothly integrate newcomers and address local impacts.

Being compassionate is one thing, but being realistic is another. Absorbing huge migrant populations is problematic.
It’s doable, we have the resources and infrastructure to make it work if the political will is there
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(Sep 10, 2023, 08:40 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 05:21 PM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 03:32 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 07:52 AM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 09, 2023, 11:02 PM)Eagle Wrote: The vast majority are helpless families just seeking safety and opportunity, surely we can manage the screening process.

It's not that simple. Even a small number of bad actors can cause major problems. And social services are already strained.

That fear shouldn't outweigh basic compassion, we can work to smoothly integrate newcomers and address local impacts.

Being compassionate is one thing, but being realistic is another. Absorbing huge migrant populations is problematic.
It’s doable, we have the resources and infrastructure to make it work if the political will is there

I'm skeptical. Even in ideal scenarios, cultural clashes and disruptions seem unavoidable at a large scale.
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(Sep 20, 2023, 08:57 PM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 08:40 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 05:21 PM)mega-mind Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 03:32 PM)Eagle Wrote:
(Sep 10, 2023, 07:52 AM)mega-mind Wrote: It's not that simple. Even a small number of bad actors can cause major problems. And social services are already strained.

That fear shouldn't outweigh basic compassion, we can work to smoothly integrate newcomers and address local impacts.

Being compassionate is one thing, but being realistic is another. Absorbing huge migrant populations is problematic.
It’s doable, we have the resources and infrastructure to make it work if the political will is there

I'm skeptical. Even in ideal scenarios, cultural clashes and disruptions seem unavoidable at a large scale.

Some difficulties maybe, but diversity strengths societies in the long run. We shouldn't reject those seeking refuge.
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