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(Sep 10, 2023, 03:30 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 07:51 AM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 09, 2023, 11:04 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 09, 2023, 09:07 PM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 09, 2023, 08:52 PM)Eagle Wrote: Nah, college is not worth the insane costs these days. Ironically grads can't even get decent jobs to pay off their student debts
I disagree. A degree still has value for better positions and pay. Overall it pays off down the road statistically.
Sure on paper, but so many grads are drowning in student debt they can't repay and saturated job market mean no guarantees
That's somewhat true, but college grads earn about a million more over their careers typically. Debt is temporary, higher lifetime earnings aren't. Those stats are misleading though, degrees don't stand out like before with the market flooded. Believe me experience matters more now
Experience is key, but a degree shows commitment and drive which employers want, it opens doors.
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(Sep 10, 2023, 05:19 PM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 03:30 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 07:51 AM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 09, 2023, 11:04 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 09, 2023, 09:07 PM)mega-mind Wrote: I disagree. A degree still has value for better positions and pay. Overall it pays off down the road statistically.
Sure on paper, but so many grads are drowning in student debt they can't repay and saturated job market mean no guarantees
That's somewhat true, but college grads earn about a million more over their careers typically. Debt is temporary, higher lifetime earnings aren't. Those stats are misleading though, degrees don't stand out like before with the market flooded. Believe me experience matters more now
Experience is key, but a degree shows commitment and drive which employers want, it opens doors.
You can learn needed skills online or on the job these days. i rather save money than go into debt for general education
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In many cases, it is still necessary to refer to a college degree
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I'm not convinced anymore. Don't get me wrong, it'll pretty much always help but I can't say it seems the debt from it is worth it these days.
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(Sep 10, 2023, 08:38 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 05:19 PM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 03:30 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 07:51 AM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 09, 2023, 11:04 PM)Eagle Wrote: Sure on paper, but so many grads are drowning in student debt they can't repay and saturated job market mean no guarantees
That's somewhat true, but college grads earn about a million more over their careers typically. Debt is temporary, higher lifetime earnings aren't. Those stats are misleading though, degrees don't stand out like before with the market flooded. Believe me experience matters more now
Experience is key, but a degree shows commitment and drive which employers want, it opens doors.
You can learn needed skills online or on the job these days. i rather save money than go into debt for general education
College also builds soft skills, collaboration, critical thinking and work ethic. Hard to get just online and connections have lifelong value.
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education after education just sounds like wasted time to me
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(Sep 20, 2023, 09:35 PM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 08:38 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 05:19 PM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 03:30 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 07:51 AM)mega-mind Wrote: That's somewhat true, but college grads earn about a million more over their careers typically. Debt is temporary, higher lifetime earnings aren't. Those stats are misleading though, degrees don't stand out like before with the market flooded. Believe me experience matters more now
Experience is key, but a degree shows commitment and drive which employers want, it opens doors.
You can learn needed skills online or on the job these days. i rather save money than go into debt for general education
College also builds soft skills, collaboration, critical thinking and work ethic. Hard to get just online and connections have lifelong value.
You can build skills and network without college though. I would rather intern in my field than go into debt for gen ed fluff.
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for someone who lives in a third world country you wouldn't even dream of affording it let having it
a degree has a value if you want to live the life an NPC work eat repeat unless you have another plan
keeping in mind that most employers require experience as well
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(Sep 21, 2023, 12:29 AM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 20, 2023, 09:35 PM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 08:38 PM)Eagle Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 05:19 PM)mega-mind Wrote: (Sep 10, 2023, 03:30 PM)Eagle Wrote: Those stats are misleading though, degrees don't stand out like before with the market flooded. Believe me experience matters more now
Experience is key, but a degree shows commitment and drive which employers want, it opens doors.
You can learn needed skills online or on the job these days. i rather save money than go into debt for general education
College also builds soft skills, collaboration, critical thinking and work ethic. Hard to get just online and connections have lifelong value.
You can build skills and network without college though. I would rather intern in my field than go into debt for gen ed fluff.
Internships are great, but college resources and network are immense benefits. Core curriculum provides a well-rounded education that employers want.
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It's a legit concern. College is a gamble, with no guarantee it will pay off. It depends on your major and goals.
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