[aquastillblue]

any suggestion for alternative email choice?

[basidiomycete]

any suggestion for alternative email choice?

Not sure if any other alternative would be better if the OPSEC behind is not ok as they emphasize at the end of the article:

• Avoid linking recovery emails or phone numbers that can directly tie back to personal identities or primary business activities.
  
• Consider using secondary, disposable emails or virtual phone numbers that offer an additional layer of anonymity.
  
• Use a good VPN service to hide your IP address whenever possible. (Failure to do this is what compromised a Proton Mail user in France who was arrested after after police obtained IP logs.)
  
• Consider purchasing services using an anonymous payment method.
  
• Stay informed about the legal obligations and policies of communication service providers, especially regarding their compliance with international law enforcement requests.
  

 
I guess you can subscribe to another alternative, if you give them your apple account as recovering address you're done.

[gloomer]

oh man i legit recently had my protonmail acc banned dude i think im in trouble lol

[Faet]

not surprised, any company will do anything for money. ?

Unfortunately, they are forced to do so by Swiss law. If they charged law enforcement for these requests, it would actually help the people by discouraging them from doing thousands of requests

I always assume the info I am giving these programs is public and act accordingly

[qaz12345]

Just goes to show, nobody is truly bulletproof.

[hoodleehoo]

This is why you can't ever mix your normal activity with your darkweb/underground activity. Also there's a difference between privacy, security, and anonymity. Unfortunately there's little in the way of options that give you all three. Protonmail was the only real clearnet email option besides Tutanota, now there's only hosting your own mail server.

[Manager2073]

OMG , thanks for sharing

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[5kidw4rd]

A key point to note in this:

"The core of the controversy stems from Proton Mail providing the Spanish
police with the recovery email address associated with the Proton Mail account of an individual using the pseudonym ‘Xuxo Rondinaire.’ ...

...Upon receiving the recovery email from Proton Mail, Spanish authorities further requested Apple to provide additional details linked to that email, leading to the identification of the individual."

As anyone who follows developments with Proton probably knows, this is similar to the incident that resulted in the arrest of a French activist a year or two ago--who remembers anymore?

What we should learn from this:

--Proton MUST comply with Swiss law, and every year there is an increasing number of requests for data

--Protonmail DOES have IP logs and your RECOVERY EMAIL is NOT encrypted and you should operate under the assumption that it can be used to identify you.

--ProtonVPN does NOT keep logs


With this knowledge, you should be able to use Proton services safely. But a good thing to keep in mind is that ALL digital mediums are vulnerable in one way or another.

[HNuRLe9vh]

Every year is worse than the last, but emails are insecure anyway, you shouldn't do anything that need privacy via email

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[jgmxghtmxgil2tor]

I imagine all email providers would have to disclose info to authorities. only difference is if they do without the court telling them to

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